Thursday, January 19, 2006

There has been plenty of fervor around lately on the possibility that we might soon invade Iran or/and Syria.
It seems that Osama's alleged tape asking for a 'truce-or else' could not have been better timed. Incidentally, the tape was reported to have been sent to Al Jazeera, but almost no one seems to have remembered that FOX Inc. bought Al Jazeera out in 2002.
Must be a coincidence.

Another coincidence is the recent come to light story that stories in Iraq News papers and radio, are paid for being pro-US. There is talk that this has gone on for quite a while in the US,-even on blog spots- although it's hard to believe that someone could actually take money for proclaiming the merits of War & Aggression.
But, hey, someone has to pay the bills.

And speaking of blogs, here's one that I recently had time to visit and comment on. Their comments were about their glee in that hundreds of Islamic pilgrims dying during the Jin. I knew they would not be nice, but I didn't know how vehement they would be. They ripped me a new one.
It is evident that they are serious and (many are) Christian followers of what they perceive to be real evil: Islamic terrorists.
I would feel exactly the same way they do, if I believed that 911 was caused by (only) Islamic terrorists.

The idea that this war is beginning to look like an all out religious war is becoming more evident each day.
Put on a religious fever, and logic and reason go right out the window. Suggests things like what does Christ have to do with blowing the crap out of innocent children, and they will tear you a new hole in your body as
they're reading scripture.
This particular site is interesting as it is structured militarily. Even the title is shock and awe:

Anti-Idiotarian Rottweiler @


I admit I had to look the up the verse they have on their main page-and here it is:
{"He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad."}
Umm, where did I hear that quoted before?

Rex Kramer, the next major player in political satirist-pro-Americana, suggested I review this article in
online journal, which fits nicely:

The Ku Klux Klan called itself “the invisible empire.” Reagan called the Soviet Union “the evil empire.” In America today the highly visible Evil Empire is the phalanx called “the evangelical Christian Right.”

Woow. Heavvvy.
But remember what Falwell and Pat said a few years back concerning 911?

"Then Falwell said, "What we saw on Tuesday, as terrible as it is, could be miniscule if, in fact, God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve."Robertson replied, "Well, Jerry, that's my feeling. I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror, we haven't begun to see what they can do to the major population."Falwell said, "The ACLU has got to take a lot of blame for this. And I know I'll hear from them for this, but throwing God...successfully with the help of the federal court system...throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools, the abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked and when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad...I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who try to secularize America...I point the thing in their face and say you helped this happen."Robertson said, "I totally concur, and the problem is we've adopted that agenda at the highest levels of our government, and so we're responsible as a free society for what the top people do, and the top people, of course, is the court system."Falwell added, "Pat, did you notice yesterday that the ACLU and all the Christ-haters, the People for the American Way, NOW, etc., were totally disregarded by the Democrats and the Republicans in both houses of Congress, as they went out on the steps and and called out to God in prayer and sang 'God bless America' and said, let the ACLU be hanged. In other words, when the nation is on its knees, the only normal and natural and spiritual thing to do is what we ought to be doing all the time, calling on God."

Recently Pat Robertson has been busy trying to get foreign leaders killed, cursing (in God's name), irevrent sections of America, and lately saying God brought judgment on Sharon for Gaza peace.

He later (kinda) apologized:

"According to his spokesperson, Angell Watts:

(VIRGINIA BEACH, VA.,) January 5, 2006—
Pat Robertson expresses his deep sadness over Ariel Sharon’s life threatening stroke and concern for Israel’s future security.
She also expressed Dr. Robertson’s outrage at People for the American Way, who have a clear left-wing political agenda and who, on an ongoing basis, lift his comments out of context and widely circulate them in an attempt to discredit him.

Really? Seems like if anyone mere mortal like I suggested blowing up a government building in DC, we would be on a plane bound for a Guanbay vacation before nightfall.

The federal Government has been pretty nice to Pat Robertson. Grants to his 'operation blessing' charity, under the bush faith based initiative, blessed Pat & Company with revenue blasting out from a paltry 108k to 14.4 million.
Bush has directed over 2 billion $ to religious groups nationwide in 2004. Funny how many home school church groups are forming these days.
14.1 Million? Christ, I'm beginning to see the merits of appreciating Hannity and Coulter.

It would almost seem as if this was planned.

Shadia Drury, who teaches politics at the University of Calgary:
" Strauss had a "huge contempt" for secular democracy. Nazism, he believed, was a nihilistic reaction to the irreligious and liberal nature of the Weimar Republic. Among other neoconservatives, Irving Kristol has long argued for a much greater role for religion in the public sphere, even suggesting that the Founding Fathers of the American Republic made a major mistake by insisting on the separation of church and state. And why? Because Strauss viewed religion as absolutely essential in order to impose moral law on the masses who otherwise would be out of control.
At the same time, he stressed that religion was for the masses alone; the rulers need not be bound by it. Indeed, it would be absurd if they were, since the truths proclaimed by religion were "a pious fraud." As Ronald Bailey, science correspondent for Reason magazine points out, "Neoconservatives are pro-religion even though they themselves may not be believers."
"Secular society in their view is the worst possible thing,'' Drury says, because it leads to individualism, liberalism, and relativism, precisely those traits that may promote dissent that in turn could dangerously weaken society's ability to cope with external threats. Bailey argues that it is this firm belief in the political utility of religion as an "opiate of the masses ..."

And if it was planned, if Bush really did try to invent reasons to invade Iraq, what other things might have been invented? It kind of begs the question about how we got into this mess to begin with.
How many times does President Bush and Company mention 911 as a shimmering backdrop for rationalization for war, torture, wiretaps?
Having an attitude such as this can get some people's attention. Posting things like this can be hazardous to one's health.
Kurt Nimmo from Another Day in the Empire had decided to stop posting because of threats.
Jeff Wells from RI has said he has possibly been watched/logged.
Alex Jones has said much the same , as others have too.
Though I admire those who stick their necks out publicly,
I have to wonder why they are surprised?
If half of the things these writers say are true, then they have to know that this is no game.
It hasn't been for a while, and the halftime show was a good time ago. THE JESUS CAMP MOVIE!! OUT IN NOV 2006 A MUST SEE!


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets get the maniacs

10:38 PM  
Blogger Young Brother said...

(formerly "young brother")

Hey Aj, wonderful post. sorry to hear you're being attacked. Have you seen the developments on

fighting fighting everywhere, and all amongst the people...
We need to unite and take down the top guns...I'm sorry I haven't been able to go over to the site you gave me. I'll make it over there, give em what for

again, just wanted to say LOVE YOUR POST. This is Exactly what we need to be focusing on. What they are trying to do, how they attempt to "pull the wool over our eyes" even now...we can't lie back and take this crap. Thanks for your advice to change the ending of my last's been entirely revamped. you may want to take a second read.

Love the picture on this post by the way...fundamentalist fools...goats in sheep's clothing!!

1:53 PM  
Blogger jc said...

AJ, good post bro. btw Nimmo thought abt it for three days and he's back on. Yes! prob'ly had a long talk w/fam and friends.

yound bro, good one (last post).

8:10 PM  
Blogger rev. billy bob gisher ©2005 said...

can't we just get the leaders in a cage match?

7:44 AM  
Blogger Rex Kramer, Danger Seeker said...

I like the cage match idea. Bring in Tina Turner to referee a la "Beyond Thunderdome." Rowdy Roddy Piper and Mean Gene to do the play-by-play. All of it televized on Fox subsidiary Al Jazeera (is that actually true? Gotta look it up.)

Keep sticking it to the wingnuts, aj.

4:05 PM  
Blogger Kathleen Callon said...

Great post.

There is a local church here called Cowboys for Christ, and in there sermon the pastor actually said, "Let's get them towlheads."

It sucks enough to have people like this in our communities, but running our country, too?

I hope something happens from the ACLU/ Bush legal battle... quickly.

2:12 PM  
Blogger 23skidoo said...

Sorry to be a bit off-topic, am trying to respond to a query via RI blog left on my own.

Trying to understand or analyze religion, you can consider the effects of a group or movement, the history, its origins, its beliefs and central dogma(s), groups that break away from it, and those that stand in opposition to it. You may look at such things in groups, and the method of analysis will alter your conclusions.

Regarding ideas about Satan and modern "Satanism," the traditional Jewish view differs greatly from Satan as the majority Christian America (and Europe) viewed the character. I believe the Book of Job is the first Biblical section in which Satan is given a role, and there we see that he is like an attorney, challenging God as an opposing party but in a relationship such that there is no chance of percieving Satan as viewing himself as a co-equal or challenger for the divine seat. I do not believe any of these ideas find their roots in Judaism, and that the idea of Satan's origins as a rebellious angel come instead from something later than Judaism, from outside of Judaism, or both.

The idea that there could be any entity capable of challenging God significantly flies in the face of strict monotheism. It is more like dualism, and the histories I am familiar with relate ancient Middle Eastern dualism to Zoroastrians in Persia and perhaps Manicheanism, maybe also Gnosticism. Gnosticism is more difficult to track in history since it tended to join popular religious movements while also subverting them somewhat from the inside. There is an idea of a shattered "pure" God of light that humanity must reassemble, and that the creator God in the universe is dark, perhaps evil.

From another tack, Satan is associated with nature, wildness, and animals, particularly in appearance, with horns, goatee, hooves, beard, and a lot of dark, coarse hair below the waist (associated with the base, the animal, and sexuality). Often the portrayal is very similar to Pan and ancient Greek Satyrs, who themselves were frequently shown with noticeable genitalia. Here we see a version of Satan with pagan roots in cultures pre-existing Christianity.

The modern Pagan movement seemed to experience a rebirth around the period of Victorian spiritualism. The Romantic poets are associated with nature and its beauty, as are the transcendentalists (who, I learned today, are also great influences on the modern environmental conservation movement). What is interesting to me about that is how a repressed society believing that science would shortly have the universe entirely explained would give rise to such energetic superstition. Psychoanalytic theory might parallel that what we as individuals or society with psyches and unconsciousnesses that, as a whole, does not take well to repression or being ignored, that do not conform to what we might ideally want them to be like, what is repressed or ignored will assert itself in unexpected and uncontrollable ways. Patrick Harpur wrote about that in Daimonic Reality (just finished reading it a couple weeks ago).

Those who come from a purely Christian society and decide for one reason or another that they do not like it or wish to "rebel" still rely on the context they learned and grew up in. If Christianity is what they know and dislike, it is reasonable that such people might decide to do the opposite of what others want in their efforts to rebel by "worshiping Satan," or at least deifying their egos and couching it in such terms. Satanism may then emerge as a reaction to modern Christianity for those who choose to remain within the majority frame of reference rather than dropping it and becoming French existentialists or moving to Nepal or some other culture with an alternate view of things.

As a side note, you can't ignore the appeal of the "dark" aesthetic. I've heard that black goes with anything, and the image of rebellion may be exactly what adolescent metal-listening self-proclaimed "Satanists" are looking for. The image is dangerous in that it may be a gateway for pulling in the vulnerable, who become pawns for those using religion as a tool for psychological manipulation. What is the difference between a cult and a mainstream religion, really, other than length of existence and size? Cults tend to have charismatic leaders, and often self-destruct if the leader is challenged or fall apart upon the leader's death. Religions tend not to fall apart on the leader's death, I guess.

Sorry about the length; I hope this is what you were asking me about, AJ. It is never my intent to offend, only to search for new ideas or new views of old ones, analyze them, and then see if better ones emerge. I try not to take any of this stuff too seriously.

There is a book by Elaine Pagels (author of the Gnostic Gospels, which I think are quite beautiful) on the religious history of Satan. There are probably bunches of books about that around, I have not looked recently.

Enough idle writing--I really need to get the reading assignment done.

4:10 PM  
Blogger Kathleen Callon said...

*in their sermon (I'm full of typos today.)

The back is better, and hope you are well.


8:37 PM  
Blogger AJ said...

Thanks guys and gals.
Appreciate your insights & visits-glad you're better Kath.

And Obie, whoa! And people say *I* read too much...

I'll have to actually do some heavy thinking about what to say..and if anyone else has a clue, let me know.
This stuff is deep, the heart of what Jeff's RI is all about. Spooky, scary, rich and delicious.

12:04 AM  
Anonymous Lily said...

I'm just hear to help Rex spread his propaganda. Oh- I see he's already been here.

4:27 PM  
Blogger Kathleen Callon said...

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4:51 PM  
Blogger Kathleen Callon said...


An interesting thing about the Bible, like with statistics, is that many different and variant conclusions can be formed from the same material. Here are some of my favorites:

"Let us make man in our image, after our likeness." (Who is "us"?)

"I give you every seed-bearing plant all over the earth and every tree that has seed-bearing fruit on it to be your food, and to all the animals of the land, all the birds of the air, and all the living creatures that crawl on the ground, I give all the green plants for food." (Are we meant to be vegetarian? Does "all" include ganga?)

"Have you fitted a curb to the Pleiades, or loosened the bonds of Orion?" (When God said this to Job, was he telling him these were the locations of Heaven and Hell?)

"All who keep the sabbath free from profanation... Them I will bring to my holy mountain and make joyful in my house." (Since Sabbath was Saturday, but men decided to change it to Sunday, are Catholics/Christians doomed to not enter "his home"?)

But my favorite is:

"No one who believes in him will be put to shame.” Here there is no Difference between Jew and Greek; all have the same Lord, rich in mercy toward all who call upon him." (Does character matter more than any/all of the dogmatic "rules" we are taught?)

4:52 PM  
Blogger John P. said...

AJ! What's up?

Good post, as usual. Wasn't it odd that the last time we heard from OBL was before the '04 elections? Coincidence? I don't know what to think anymore.

10:56 PM  
Blogger jc said...

hey AJ
re "UFOsama" yeah i don't think he is alive. posted on it. called osama bin ewwwing after JR, u know back from the dead. but even so, there's this:

re the tapes, with this type of tech who needs Osama?

and you shld read this:

take care, peace

12:34 AM  
Blogger Lily said...

I thought Bobby Ewing came back from the dead? Did they both? Hell of a fictitious gene pool. Hmm whats the common denominator here...oil. Oil profiteering must make people invincible. No wonder Cheney keeps on tickin'.

I love that people describe the trampling of Muslims in terms of 'dead terrorists'. I suppose they are ALL terrorists like we are ALL wingnuts...why not re-explore the nazi approach to lumping everyone together and categorically placing blame on everyone without distinction...

11:03 AM  
Blogger Young Brother said...
a nuke may drop in Texas very soon

2:46 PM  
Blogger AJ said...

Yes, thanx for that awakening.
If I had not heard Condi say : "I don’t see much room for further discussion in any format",
concerning talking instead of bombing Iran, and
the Iranian Oil Bourse is due to open up in a month or so- creating potential havoc for the US economy,

I might (not) be getting worried.

Kinda makes Y2k fears seem a little rediculous huh?
So having spilled my guts to God and all that I actually was a little
concerned about Y2k
(bought a few extra cans of food, water)
perhaps it's just my paranoia spilling over and this will blow over and everything will be ok.

8:11 PM  
Blogger Rach said...

Hi AJ, thanks for stopping to make a comment while cruising blogs tonight. I'm not sure about any particular laws against highrises, but I can see why there aren't any. Us Islanders would rather not be a suburb of Vancouver. ;)
So what brought you up to this neck of the woods a few years back?

I see you have a very "deep" blog here. I haven't read much past the first couple paragraphs, sorry. Just wanted to say hi back atcha.

10:10 PM  
Blogger AJ said...

Hi Rach and thanx for stopping by. I was up there a while ago for school near Vancouver, and spent Christmas (is it still OK in Canada to call it that?) on your beautiful Island.

10:28 PM  
Anonymous lily said...

Checking in, aj, making my rounds! Seeing whats being discussed in blogarama...

11:49 PM  
Blogger Rach said...

Heehee .. yes it's still okay to call it Christmas. lol But you've got a point. My kids school calls their Christmas concert a Winterfest. Mind you it is also a french immersion school as well(nope, mine aren't in immersion :P)so that could be part of the name change.
So does your schooling taken up here count in the States? Just curious.

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7:45 PM  

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