Thursday, December 08, 2005

Kevin-Pass the Plate

A while ago, I serendipitously found myself at a Christian Web site. I would have left sooner than you could say: 'We will now pass the plate',
but the theme of the site was rather unique.
Mr. Stephen Hanchett has written a book about his intense study and ultimate conclusion to the possibility that Bush is the Anti-Christ. He has done his job well. Although I do not share his premise, I do share the passion. There is something really wrong with things today, especially in religious circles.

In my discourse with others at the site, which were few since I do not share their inerrant bible theory, I did meet one young gentlemen from Florida, named Kevin, (young brother) who would be irritated for me still classifying him as a fundamentalist, but regardless had the balls to recently write something very good:

"I want to thank the American religious right wing for stealing and defiling the name of the one hope for humanity. I would like to thank them for being lazy apathetic, and/or weak minded enough to (by the millions) lie back and accept the popularized notion that Jesus Christ spent his life running around making sure that men were only sleeping with women, and women were seen but never heard (also only sleeping with men). Thanks for sending out the message that "God Hates Fags", even though every homosexual person has been handcrafted by their creator (who is Love.)Thank you for making unchurched people take away from you and your active and consistent example the idea that Jesus was a nosy busy-body, who also was worried sick about pregnant women and their children in utero. ...

And I love it how you shrug off your allegiance to the war machine by claiming forgiveness, or that you are turning the other cheek. You have washed your hands in innocent blood. How holy you are. How Godly and pure, to turn a blind eye to, say the catastrophic birth defects that have plagued Iraq since we riddled it with depleted uranium shells in Desert Storm. Because ' family values' and the politician's promise to end abortion (five years waiting for Bushco so far...) are way more important than human justice...."

And it seems Kevin & Steve are not the only ones who sense something is wrong:

from: Christianity & The Demise Of America

"Real Christians would not tolerate presidents who make war on defenseless people based upon lies and innuendo. Bush and his imperialist polices should be openly and powerfully denounced from every pulpit in every church in the United States, every day. But they are not. In fact, just the opposite occurs. Bush and his minions are cheered on by the apostates, the dogs of war and poverty. Rather than acting as a counter friction to the machine, the church acts like a cheer leader for grotesque acts of atrocity against the world. By allying itself with fraudulent ideologues like the 'Christian Right,' the church has itself become the anti-Christ."

Charles Sullivan -Information Clearing House

According to End Times Biblical theology, there will arise an Anti-Christ prior to the end of the age. During, before, or after, depending on what camp you're in, the 'true-blue' Christians (who are not suppose to be deceived), will be persecuted. Many believers and pagans will die horrible deaths.
In my early years as a die-hard fundy, we enjoyed believing that the United States was the chosen nation to help Israel & 'True Anna-Baptist Christianity ' survive, and believers would be crowned because of it.If you were really 'saved', you would not have to go through it. You would be 'raptured'.
After all Tim & Jerry aren't making loads of cash for nothing.

How ironic if true, that God, (or the Trickster), might have the outcome just the opposite.
Indeed, it seems logical to deduce that the UNITED STATES is leading the calls to a biblical Armageddon. How bizarre that the wars of today are being fought in ancient day Babylon.

If it finally comes out that 911 was not what the leaders say it was- only after a climatic biological / nuclear exchange will then change peoples attitudes about religion forever. The horrors and the consequences leading up to a nuclear/bio exchange in the middle east, or abroad, with the effects it will have on the environment, the death toll, and the chaos would be chilling.

Because then, the Religious Right, and their religious constituents, by supporting this war and the administration that caused it- the loudest and most fervently- would ultimately be the ones that would feel the wrath of the surviving nations.
Thereupon ' Christian prophecy' comes true, but in a most unbelievable, horrible and unanticipated way.



Blogger Young Brother said...

A.j. There is no call for tithes from my camp. Excellent post. Thank's again for inspiring me to release my dark venomous thoughts to the general public. I feel you have allowed me to break free of the final shackles of fear. Fear mostly of what people I've known all my life would think. We have reached another level in this shared quest. Your blog is really coming together well. I'm grateful for the opportunity to hear your perspective.

2:43 AM  
Blogger rev. billy bob gisher ©2005 said...

damn you, i got a pile a stuff to do and was trying to do a quickie tour, but this was such a nice piece, i gotta get time to come back next week and run down the links. thanks, damn you.

8:58 AM  
Blogger AJ said...

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10:43 AM  
Blogger AJ said...


What? A lot to do? What does someone that lives up there in the snowbelt have to do besides shovel snow and beg for scraps of food from rich red state republicans?*

*ie like me

10:46 AM  
Blogger rev. billy bob gisher ©2005 said...

other than this blog and birch beer

6:37 PM  
Anonymous Rex Kramer, Danger Seeker said...

Good stuff, aj. The concept that GWB is the antichrist has been rattling around now for some time, and not always in satire or by the lunatic fringe. The Catholic New Times picked up an article back in 2003 about how Dubya exhibited "all the hallmarks of the one warned about in the Book of Revelations--the anti-Christ." On the secular side, Vanity Fair recently printed an interesting piece of Tim LaHaye (of "Left Behind" and Moral Majority fame) and his unholy alliance with the GOP to bring about the Rapture.

That said, I'm not so sure. I mean, I know I'm a lapsed Catholic and all, but I don't recall ever recall anything about the beast choking on a pretzel.

7:25 PM  
Blogger AJ said...


Thanks for the honored visit my Florida friend.
Lapsed Catholics are welcome anytime.

8:57 PM  
Blogger rev. billy bob gisher ©2005 said...

oh i am not not lapsed, they call me that some of those pigs, (but i got more heart for my church, even though they still have their heads up their butt) the three whole pews of them unlapsed coma victims.

2:20 PM  
Blogger rev. billy bob gisher ©2005 said...

"than" no "the"

better than what is is

2:21 PM  
Blogger rev. billy bob gisher ©2005 said...

i left out calling gwb the anticrust, is way too much flattery.

12:54 PM  
Blogger Young Brother said...

A.j. thanks for the heads up, I checked out lizzie's blog. Good call. Just put up a new post, check it out when you have time.

2:42 PM  
Blogger John P. said...

HA! Good post AJ, thanks!

4:46 PM  
Blogger Kathleen Callon said...


5:02 PM  
Blogger Error 404 said...

Rev, I agree - GWB can't be the antichrist because, well, he isn't a big enough man. He doesn't have enough character to be seriously evil.

Definitely ungood. Double-plus-ungood. And very bad news for his country and planet, but not cosmic anything.

9:53 AM  
Blogger Young Brother said...

Aj. You are making an ass out of yourself, and your words sting me, but they shouldn't.

Stephen Hanchett wrote a book, have you read it? for under $5 you can purchase it in pdf and have it in the timespan of a download.

Fundamentalists are not merely people who take the bible literally (and I don't, I don't expect to ever see a seven headed monster come rising up out of the ocean to crush the church.) They have been proven to tweist the scripture consistantly, and their people have all but neutralised the message of living truth that Christ shared eons ago. Fundamentalists are my personal nemisis. Because they raised me and taught me to not care about my neighbor.

7:43 PM  
Blogger AJ said...


Because they raised me and taught me to not care about my neighbor.

What ? Am I missing something?

10:42 PM  
Blogger rev. billy bob gisher ©2005 said...

hey bub, you ought to come see the responses on my post today. some are making fun of it, one wanted to reach out to the guy, most say they would leave the comments, and many acknowledge the entertainment value, and a few have even said there was a worthy nugget or two. one i am so proud of my group, and two, by fridays post, it should be safe for those to the hard left of you to come out and play. i want your brothers with us. there are nuggets of truth in their words, but more importantly, everyone should be able to speak their minds freely, without being savagely attacked. humorous poking excepted. see the post, and then see what you can do about getting me some real basket cases. here is a chance to give them open forum, and i will defend their right to speak as this is one of the best examples of why we need to change how we treat each other, that i can think of.

10:54 AM  
Blogger dr.alistair said...

great article, but it gives a mere politician way too much credit. the real villians are too good at covering thier tracks. any devil worth his salt would be invisible to us mere mortals and not being caught saying dumbass shit on cnn everyday.
and if you are interested in american politics you might want to check out but remember it`s red or blue pill time.
tell marc i said hi.

8:06 PM  
Blogger AJ said...


Thanks for stopping by, and don't worry. I opted for the red pill a long time ago.Unfortunately,
The rabbit hole seems to be getting deeper and deeper.

11:29 PM  
Blogger rev. billy bob gisher ©2005 said...


did you catch the post today?

3:39 PM  
Blogger AJ said...

Hey Rev,

Sorry, been really busy @ work, research, and begging for food for my kids....
Don't worry, I always lurk around my old upstate NY stomping grounds...

3:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

aj - good thinking!!

6:38 PM  
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9:55 AM  

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